Tony Cliff pt2

In part 2 of their conversation, Tony Cliff and Dan Berry talk about software, hardware and get grumpy about subscription models. Tony has a new book out called Let's Get Sleepy! This episode is sponsored by PrintNinja. Visit printninja.com/makeit to get started. Mention Make It Then Tell Everybody when you save your quote and receive a free 5% print overrun with your order! Consider supporting the show on Patreon for as little as a dollar an episode.