Episode 492: In The Seats With...Brandon Kramer, Lance Kramer and 'The First Step'

Getting anything done in politics is genuinely hard....On this episode we dive head first into the difficult waters of modern politics, that are even more difficult to navigate in these incredibly divisive times.  It's time for 'The First Step'.In a divided America, Van Jones controversially works across party lines on landmark criminal justice reform and a more humane response to America's addiction crisis. Attempting to be a bridge builder in a time of extreme polarization takes him deep into the inner workings of a divisive administration, internal debates within both parties, and the lives of frontline activists fighting for their communities.Ultimately an incredibly complex deep dive into the modern political system and what it actually takes to get something done.  We had the unique pleasure of sitting down the filmmakers behind the film, Brandon and Lance Kramer to talk about the origins of the film the things they learned along the way and so very much more....'The First Step' is playing in select theatres in the US, now.