The Eagle and The Sheep: The View From The Red Wall, A Year On (with Deborah Mattinson)

The voters in northern England who turned their backs on Labour in November 2019 are disappointed in Boris Johnson, but see him as unlucky in having to guide the country through the Covid crisis.Deborah Mattinson, Co-Founder of BritainThinks and author of Beyond the Red Wall tells Bloomberg Westminster's Roger Hearing about her recent research in those same areas. People were asked to imagine Johnson as an animal, she says, and they chose a sheep - driven back and forth by changing events.Asked to imagine the Labour leader, Keir Starmer, they chose an eagle - flying above events and observing, but not really getting involved.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.