#14 περὶ τοῦ σαφὲς εἰδέναι

χαίρετε! This week we discuss Plato's Phaedon, analysing Simmias' response to Socrates' assertion that the soul is immortal (section 85 c-d). Can we know anything for sure on this topic? If we can't, then what else should we do instead? Read the text and listen to our discussion then get involved in the discussion on social media (in Greek if you are motivated, but all other languages are welcome too). Follow the podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LeighDCobley On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hellenizdein/ Join our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/60491... Become a patron to listen to episodes in advance as well as tons of other totally original Greek learning resources, including my Ancient Greek novella "Gen Ω": https://www.patreon.com/Hellenizdein?... Subscribe to the podcast on iTunes for the latest episodes: https://podcasts.apple.com/es/podcast... Thanks for listening! Josep & Leandros Here is the section under discussion: καλῶς, ἔφη, λέγεις, ὁ Σιμμίας: καὶ ἐγώ τέ σοι ἐρῶ ὃ [85ξ] ἀπορῶ, καὶ αὖ ὅδε, ᾗ οὐκ ἀποδέχεται τὰ εἰρημένα. ἐμοὶ γὰρ δοκεῖ, ὦ Σώκρατες, περὶτῶν τοιούτων ἴσως ὥσπερ καὶ σοὶ τὸ μὲν σαφὲς εἰδέναι ἐν τῷ νῦν βίῳ ἢ ἀδύνατον εἶναι ἢ παγχάλεπόν τι, τὸ μέντοι αὖ τὰ λεγόμενα περὶ αὐτῶνμὴ οὐχὶ παντὶ τρόπῳ ἐλέγχειν καὶ μὴ προαφίστασθαι πρὶν ἂν πανταχῇ σκοπῶν ἀπείπῃ τις, πάνυ μαλθακοῦ εἶναι ἀνδρός: δεῖν γὰρ περὶ αὐτὰ ἕνγέ τι τούτων διαπράξασθαι, ἢ μαθεῖν ὅπῃ ἔχει ἢ εὑρεῖν ἤ, εἰ ταῦτα ἀδύνατον, τὸν γοῦν βέλτιστον τῶν ἀνθρωπίνων λόγων λαβόντα καὶ δυσεξελεγκτότατον, [85δ] ἐπὶ τούτου ὀχούμενον ὥσπερ ἐπὶ σχεδίας κινδυνεύον τα διαπλεῦσαι τὸν βίον, εἰ μή τις δύναιτο ἀσφαλέστερον καὶ ἀκινδυνότερον ἐπὶ βεβαιοτέρου ὀχήματος, ἢ λόγου θείου τινός, διαπορευθῆναι.